New Study: Fathers do kill their kids just to hurt the moms

The article below covers a new study that gives us some data to refer to when stating what we have all known to be true for a few years:  Fathers who kill their kids do it out of revenge to the mom … usually for leaving them.  We have never argued that moms do NOT kill their kids, but have said that fewer of them do so and that they do so for different reasons than fathers that kill their children.  Finally someone completed a study on this and the below article gives the results.

 

Child killer study finds diverse motives for men and women

February 4, 2012

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/child-killer-study-finds-diverse-motives-for-men-and-women-20120203-1qxnz.html#ixzz1pCerEfRP

HE BECAME known as the Facebook killer because it was on the social networking site that he broadcast his intention to kill his daughter: ''Bout 2 kill ma kid,'' wrote Ramazan Acar shortly before he murdered two-year-old Yazmina in Melbourne in November 2010 by stabbing her repeatedly. But it was less the medium than the motive that defined his crime.

Soon after that message, he posted another intended for his ex-partner, Rachelle D'Argent: ''Pay bk u slut.''

A new study of child murders,

Killer Dad Defended in Comments .... UGH

This is an old article... but I wanted to share it... as just another example of a Killer Father!  The commenter's defending this man are unbelievable!  I’m glad there were several that spoke up and said that there is NO excuse for killing an innocent child.  I must note... the court had ended the joint parenting and had given the mother sole custody... so for once the court gets it right and this bad dad kills the kid anyway.  My heart goes out to the mom and her family!!

SOMERSET, Calif. -- Authorities say the bodies of a missing 2-year-old Sacramento girl and her father have been found in the man's vehicle in a rural area of El Dorado County.

FBI Special Agent John Cauthen told the Associated Press the bodies of Madeline Samaan-Fay and 49-year-old Mourad "Moni" Samaan were discovered in his green Toyota 4Runner.

The vehicle was found on private property behind a chained and locked gate.

A California HIghway Patrol helicopter spotted the vehicle. Investigators from the El Dorado County Sheriff's Department were the first to confirm two bodies inside.

"To have the case end up like this, it's tough," said El Dorado County Sheriff''s spokesman Bryan Golmitz.

Cauthen says the cause and time of the deaths is not immediately known. Investigators from the El Dorado County Sheriff's Department and the FBI are working on this case. Investigators are expected at the scene throughout the weekend, said Cauthen..

The FBI issued an Amber Alert Friday for the toddler. She was last seen Aug. 7 with her father in a Sacramento grocery store.

Samaan was served the day before with a notice that the girl's mother was awarded full custody of their daughter, ending what had been a joint custody arrangement, Cauthen said.

He then failed to return the child to her mother as expected.

Samaan had not been charged with a crime.

The mother didn't report the girl missing until Tuesday, the Associated Press reported.

Read more: http://www.kcra.com/news/28859602/detail.html#ixzz1a2SXIgZ3

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It’s All About the Power and Control, I Mean the Kids - Part Two

“Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the public and have no self.” ~ Cyril Connolly (1903-1974)

Ok, so with that thought in mind I move on to part two of this topic, and oh yes there will be a part three... just don’t you worry. 

As I was saying in part one, the people who make up the Father’s Rights Movement may not have started out where they have ended up.  They originally may have been honestly good fathers and what they have morphed into is the result of many abusers jumping onboard and running away with the movement.

Along these lines the men in the FR Movement have touted and tried to throw in the face of all women (feminists, non-feminists, mothers and every one really) a quote from Gloria Steinem... attempting to ‘prove’ that even SHE sees their side of it, that fathers need to be equal in parenting...  FR’s go on with that thought regardless of whether or not the father is abusive.

The quote I’m referring to is:  “Women can't be equal outside the home until men are equal in it.”

As far as I can find Gloria Steinem actually said this sentence twice, once in an interview published in the NY Daily News and once in an article she wrote which was published in the Opinion Section of the LA Times.  The LA Times article is no longer available but I found the article copied here, so that I can still reference it.

In both cases the FR Movement refuses to take the quote in the context of what she was actually saying.  Taking shit out of context is one of my biggest pet peeves and in this case shows how totally twisted they have actually gotten it.

In the interview, which was for the occasion of her 75th birthday, she was speaking in a general sense of women’s equality.  What she actually said was: 

“We’ve demonstrated that women can do what men do, but not yet that men can do what women do. That’s why most women have two jobs — one inside the home and one outside it — which is impossible. The truth is that women can’t be equal outside the home until men are equal in it.”

In the article she wrote for the LA Times she was speaking about Sarah Palin running for VP.  What she actually said was: 

Being a hope-a-holic, however, I can see two long-term bipartisan gains from this contest.

Republicans may learn they can't appeal to right-wing patriarchs and most women at the same time. A loss in November could cause the centrist majority of Republicans to take back their party, which was the first to support the Equal Rights Amendment and should be the last to want to invite government into the wombs of women.

And American women, who suffer more because of having two full-time jobs than from any other single injustice, finally have support on a national stage from male leaders who know that women can't be equal outside the home until men are equal in it. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are campaigning on their belief that men should be, can be and want to be at home for their children.

She wasn’t saying that men should be equal in the home, thus supporting fathers being caregivers to young children then turning around and abusing them because they are not equipped to handle it.  What she is saying is that women have TWO jobs, which are impossible to juggle from a man’s point of view... but that women do it everyday.

Yes, she does state that Obama and Biden were campaigning on their belief that men should, can and want to be home for their kids.  She did NOT say she supports that... she specifically used the words “their belief”. 

So, Father’s Rights Activists.... I ask you this, where exactly does Gloria Steinem say you should be allowed to stay home and not work while your children’s mom does and pays you child support to abuse your kids?  I must have missed that.

I still stick to my opinion that most of those in the FR Movement are abusers trying to cram their ideological patriarchal power and control down everyone else’s throats.

It’s All About the Power and Control, I Mean the Kids

Everyday we all hear about or read about divorcing couples fighting over who gets the kids.  Fighting over their own children like they are some sort of property to be traded back and forth.  There are many people that believe ALL mothers should always have custody with very little to no visitation for fathers; and likewise there are those out there that believe the opposite, ALL fathers should get custody and mothers should get little to no visitation.

Personally I don’t see how so many people can see this issue in such black and white terms.  Not ALL mothers are good parents and not ALL fathers are good parents.  For the most part the daily news will show us that most child abuse and child murders are committed by fathers, and yes, occasionally by mothers.  This still doesn’t prove that ALL fathers are bad or good or that ALL mothers are bad or good.

In the last few years I have learned more about the Father’s Rights Movement, and I can say that I’m more than a little shocked at what I’ve learned.  The Father’s Rights Advocates would have everyone believe that they are just concerned for fathers as a whole having shared or joint custody.  They would have us believe that their number one concern is actually the children in divorces and custody cases.  On the surface if one doesn’t dig too much that sounds wonderful.

However, when looked at further it is easily seen what the real agenda is for the Father’s Rights Movement.  The further abuse and victimization of their ex-wives and children.  Before I go any further here, I’d like to point out that I fully believe that good fathers have

sought out the assistance of the Father’s Rights Movement and one of two things happens... they either leave, frustrated and still alone in their plight OR they become enmeshed in the bitterness which abounds.

What I see out of Father’s Rights Advocates around the internet appears to be mostly just a bunch of men (and a few women that will do anything to get the attention or have a little power for themselves) who have been abusive in one way or another to the mother of their children and now feel that comfy rug of power and control being ripped from under their feet. 

What better way to continue to abuse and control your victim when they walk away than to take possession of their children?

One main reason that I’ve formed the opinion that I have of the Father’s Rights Movement is because only abusers would look at the news we see of fathers murdering and abusing their kids and deny that it happens, or make excuses for it happening.  The strict adherence to the ‘ALL fathers should have custody’ line that they feed everyone is the basis of my opinion that the majority of those in the movement are abusers grasping at keeping the power and control they had.

Here is an example, mind you... this is only one search, but there are many like this.

VISITOR ANALYSIS

Referrer
http://www.google.com/m?q=do wifes come back after losing custody?&start=20&sa=N

Search Engine Phrase
do wifes come back after losing custody?

Search Engine Name
Google

Search Engine Host
www.google.com

Host Name
74-82-64-35.rdns.blackberry.net

IP Address
74.82.64.35 [Label IP Address]

Country
United States

Why would someone look for this?  Other than because they are contemplating attempting to gain custody through the Family Court just to get their ex-wife back under their power.  This doesn’t sound like a man who loves his kids and wants the best for them, this sounds like a man who loves control and will use whatever means available to him to maintain or re-gain his power and control.

I never meant for this to be this long, so I will wrap this up by saying... not ALL men should have access to their children regardless of what the FR Advocates say.  Likewise, I can admit that not ALL women that give birth are the best parent choice either.  The natural equipment that we are born with which enables us to create life does NOT dictate how a person will be as a parent.

Since it is obvious that I have much more to say about this... there will be other posts on this subject.

 

Another One: DEAD!

*Warning*  if you are offended by curse words, then skip what I have to say and just read the article below....and there are grammatical errors...many run-on sentences...not my best writing in the least...BUT, it is how I feel about it!

I am getting so fucking sick and tired of seeing these fathers who murder their children, fathers that are so selfish that they then kill themselves and leave everyone else behind to pick up the fucking pieces that they have left scattered all over the place...

It was seeing this type of article on a daily basis that first prompted the murder-suicide blog and map...but after going through stories and articles on a daily basis of children getting killed for no good reason, it was better to just let that other go and not work on it for awhile. 

This father picked his son up for a visitation and killed him!  AFTER he had already threatened to kill the baby and himself...oh but wait...there’s more...THIS WAS A FUCKING COURT ORDERED VISIT!!!!!

Oh but I am sure that just like all the rest the judge will excuse his decision by telling that he could only make a decision based on the proof that he had to look at....oh what the fuck ever! 

When are WE; as a country of people, as a society; going to start making our law makers, enforcement officials and judicial system follow the damn laws?  When are we going to start holding them accountable for their poor decisions or indecision when it is allowing our children as a whole to be murdered?

Oh, that’s right...PROBABLY FUCKING NEVER!!!  Because it is more comfortable to sit in the house and say that it will never happen to you or your family and to not give a flying shit because it has nothing to do with you...guess what...those that do nothing are enabling the abusers and murders and are just as bad as they are!

SoCal father, son dead in apparent murder-suicide

Sunday, January 31, 2010

Authorities in San Bernardino County say a 25-year-old father and his 9-month-old son have died in what investigators believe is a murder-suicide.

A sheriff's news release says deputies found Stephen Garcia and son Wyatt Garcia dead in a vehicle on a rural dirt road in the Twin Peaks area early Sunday.

The release says the Hesperia Sheriff's Station had received a report Saturday night that Garcia took his son during a court-ordered visitation and threatened to kill the child and himself.

The department did not say how the pair died, only that they "sustained traumatic injuries."

The county coroner will conduct an autopsy on both father and son this week.

Stephen Garcia was from the Pinon (pin-YONE) Hills area and his son was from Yucca Valley.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/01/31/state/n183809S81.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0eGKvjLHD

Recording Released In Murder-Suicide Case - Louisville News Story - WLKY Louisville

It is about time!  We hear all the time about these murder-suicides and everyone always makes noises about “Why was those kids even with that parent?” Well...this article gives one scenario as to how that happens.  Another scenario that is also popular is that a Family Court Judge gave them to the parent that eventually ends up killing them, but that is not the case here.

In this situation, it was a couple of cops that felt they didn’t have to read the entirety of the judges orders.  They just went on and did what they ‘thought’ they should do.

The fact that this dad turned around, not very long after he was given temporary (illegal) custody of his child, murdered his child and committed suicide; makes me wonder if he were even telling the truth about the mom in his EPO.  I think...probably not.  I think...this was another abuser that was trying to further the abuse because she left him and this was the only control that he could hold over her.

The trial is set for October in this case...so I guess we shall see if justice will be done for this small boy who’s life was ended WAY too early.

Recording Released In Murder-Suicide Case

Recording Shows Father Told Police He Didn't Have Custody Of Son

By Eric King/WLKY  POSTED: 6:24 pm EST January 28, 2010

BARDSTOWN, Ky. -- WLKY has uncovered new information in a Bardstown murder-suicide case.

WLKY obtained an audio recording of a conversation between Timothy Frazier and the Lawrenceburg Police Department. Police said in May 2009, Frazier shot his 21-month-old son in the head, then turned the gun on himself.

MP3: Listen To Police Recording

The Lawrenceburg Police Department is being sued for illegally taking the boy from his mother and placing him in the custody of his father, who according to police, later killed him.

In the call, Frazier made it clear, three times, that he did not have custody of the child.

The call came into the Lawrenceburg Police Department on May 13, just hours after Frazier filed an emergency protective order against his ex-girlfriend, Candice Dempsey, of 21-month-old Cole.

The EPO was filed in Bardstown, where Frazier lived. Dempsey lived in Lawrenceburg.

In the call, ... Murder-Suicide Case - Louisville News Story - WLKY Louisville

What is Best for the Kids

 

Dads 'not entitled to shared parenting'

Caroline Overington

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/dads-not-entitled-to-shared-parenting/story-e6frf7jx-1225824407249

From:The Australian

January 28, 2010 4:23PM

SEPARATED fathers are not entitled to a 50-50 time split with their children, and legislation introduced by the Howard government in 2006 should be amended to make that clear, a report says.

A 300-report by retired family court judge Richard Chisholm recommends five changes to the so-called "shared parenting" law, which he described as a "tangle" that had taken the focus off "what is best for the children," The Australian reports.

The hotly anticipated Chisholm report, which was ordered by Attorney-General Robert McClelland after the shocking death of Melbourne girl Darcey Freeman, who was thrown to her death from the West Gate Bridge last year, says the shared parenting law has made it difficult for women to raise allegations of violence in the Family Court system.

A separate, 1000-page report by the Australian Institute of Family Studies, also released this afternoon, says the majority of lawyers now believe that the 2006 reforms favour fathers over mothers, and parents over children.

The two reports into shared parenting - plus a third report, by the Family Law Council - were released simultaneously by Mr McClelland this afternoon.

Mr McClelland said the Government would review all reports before making changes but agreed that a false idea had taken hold in the community that fathers were entitled to a 50-50 time split.

“How we address that is what we've now got to decide,” he said.

Read more about the released reports at The Australian.

Court-Ordered Not to Possess Firearms; But He Shot Them Anyway

Nice condensed summary of this case (below).  There are two women, two children and one man dead because this man, who did have a RO against him from a third woman, broke that RO and carried a gun anyway.  So, apparently someone knew he was violent!

This is happening far too often!  We as a society need to wake up and do something about our families being killed all over the place.  Many think this is only someone else’s issue; until it happens in their family or on their block.

Then when it does happen close to them, many people sit around and say things like, ‘we are so shocked, he was such a good man’.  Well let me tell you something...and I want you to really think about this and apply to those around you...good people do NOT kill their families and loved ones, good people do NOT beat their families and loved ones, good people are NOT violent and verbally abusive to their families and loved ones.

Most of the time this violence and abuse is going on behind closed doors, but we all need to be aware of domestic violence on a whole and be prepared when our friend, co-worker, family member, or neighbor comes to use and tells us that they are being abused.

Hat tip to Annie for finding this article.

Father Murders Two of His Children and Their Respective Mothers … While Court-Ordered Not to Possess Firearms

Posted by Janet Langjahr. Filed under Domestic Violence & Orders of Protection.

Father has toddler Daughter with Girlfriend.

Father has Other Daughter, also a toddler, with Other Girlfriend.

Daughter and Girlfriend can’t be accounted for.

Then Other Daughter and Other Girlfriend’s bodies are discovered. Shot.

Then, hours later, Daughter and Girlfriend’s bodies are discovered – in Father’s trunk.

A few days later, Father’s body is found, an apparent suicide.

Father has been involved in child support litigation with Girlfriend and Other Girlfriend.

Father has also been unemployed for several months.

Yet another woman had a domestic violence restraining order against Father at the time of his death. That order prohibited Father from having firearms in his possession.

But Father managed to overcome that restriction.

Read more in this Associated Press article: Wis. man linked to 4 slayings charged in 2 deaths and this Wisconsin State Journal article: Murder suspect Tyrone Adair found dead in Cottage Grove.

Will Darcy Freeman Get Justice

 

By Special Guest Writer Akasha Mc Donald

The dead cannot speak.  They cannot cry when there is no justice. 

"Take me away" Arthur Freeman said. 

The defense lawyer continued to shift the focus on the words that were not spoken, the food that was not offered and the CTV camera that did not record.  Well dressed with a shiny purple tie, sat Arthur Freeman carefully following the movements of the lawyers, calculating the sum of words, expressions and moments nearing the end of a two day committal hearing at Melbourne Magistrates Court.  His lawyer did well to convince others that Arthur Freeman was not guilty, that he was mentally ill and not fit to stand trial.  There was more than just a few flaws that became the thread undoing the blanket of defense.  Without saying the word "catatonic", the lawyer gnarled away with questions establishing a lost cause even after it was confirmed that Mr Freeman had spoke.   It is an empirical fact in trauma studies that perpetrators suffer from trauma post the incident.  This has been well documented over many years.  The behaviors Mr Freeman displayed after the act, sounds just like text-book trauma. 

Towards the end of the hearing, the judge spoke directly to Mr Freeman informing him of the consequences of pleading guilty and not guilty throughout the trial.  As if gratified by knowing that his victims would be tormented by the case dragging out and the possibility of it twisting into a great injustice, he stood proudly and said, "Not Guilty".  Silence filled the room, followed by an echo of pens in unison furiously scratching away at paper.  His face was devoid of all emotion but a twisted sense of triumph that spread across his face. After all, it is the last opportunity he has to torment his ex wife and family. 

Take a look at the figures; 90% of families being killed by dear dad

 

Over 90% of Familicides are Fathers Killing Their Families

from RightsForMothers.com by justice4mothers

Can’t say that I agree the with this explantion of motivating factor for familicide. But the fact that 196 of 211 familicides were committed by men (92.89%) shows that murder of family members are being committed by MALES more than 90% of the time. True to the Violence Policy Center’s prior studies.

Expert: Rate Of Familicides Rising

Peter Busch
Reporter, KPHO.com

FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. — A criminal justice professor said familicide, a crime in which a parent kills his or her family, is on the rise.”We’ve noticed over the past year a marked increase in familicides nationally,” said Neil Websdale, a professor at Northern Arizona University.Websdale believes the recession is one of the reasons behind the spike.”I think what’s happening is perpetrators are killing because they somehow perceive that they have failed as providers, lovers, fathers, and in a small number of cases, wives and mothers,” he said.

Websdale just wrote the book Familicidal Hearts, which will be released in January. In the book, he looked at 211 cases of familicide. In 196 of those cases, the father was the killer.Websdale said the recent murder-suicide in Mesa where a mother apparently killed her two teenage sons before killing herself is the exception to the rule.”Without knowing all the facts, it’s tough to say what was behind it — but it definitely looks like a rare case,” he said.

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Why Are They Dead?

The Family Courts around the world are sentencing our children to death, by enforcing visitations and custody with abusive parents.  This site not only provides research about this ever growing problem but is also a tribute to those that have bee killed at the hands of their abuser because of court orders.

Below is an excerpt from Family Court Murders 

The Untied Nations definition of Genocide set out in the Convention on Genocide is:

Article 2

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

In the news, it is common to see these murders blamed on the economy or the stress associated with divorce.

Unless you are a keen researcher, you are not privy to knowing what academics and even the UN knew for years

A silent but deadly genocide against women and children where authorities have had many opportunities to eliminate the root cause, but chose not to.

In every case these deaths are a result of child custody disputes where the court knows of a violent history, but decides to gamble with their lives for the sake of "fathers rights".

Educate the baby shakers, may save a life

justice4mothers from RightsForMothers.com posted this a couple days ago...I am behind, just now seeing it.  Link for the original post at the end.

 

Educating Dads May Help Protect Babies From Abuse: New 2009 Study

Filed under: Activism, Best interest of the child, Child Abuse, Child Custody, Child custody for fathers, Children and Domestic Violence, Children's rights, Civil rights, Domestic Abuse, Domestic Violence, Fathers who murder their children, Human Rights — justice4mothers @ 8:33 pm

A new study paints a heartbreaking portrait of babies who die from child abuse — and suggests new ways to protect children.  More than half of the babies and toddlers showed signs of previous abuse, according to a study of 72 deaths of children under age 2, published online this week in Pediatrics. The study included data from five states and seven cities.

Babies this age, who are vulnerable in so many ways, are also among the most likely of all children to be victims of homicide, the study says.

More than 2,400 children under 2 were murdered in the USA from 2001 to 2005, almost twice the number killed in car accidents, the study says. Children this age account for about half of all homicides of children under 14. The murder rate for babies this age — 6 per 100,000 children — is 10 times higher than the rate for children 7 to 8 years old, and even higher than the rate for 15- and 16-year-olds, the study says.

In the study, the largest number of babies died after being shaken to death, often because of crying.

Many of these deaths may be preventable, because evidence suggests that the perpetrators act out of frustration and ignorance rather than a desire to harm, says co-author Takeo Fujiwara the of Harvard School of Public Health.

The study also shows that child advocates need to do a better job of educating men about ways to cope with crying, says Carole Jenny, a spokeswoman for the American Academy of Pediatrics on child abuse.

More than 70% of perpetrators in the study were male. That’s striking, given that women often spend more time with infants, says co-author Catherine Barber, also of Harvard.

There’s no national system to educate parents about shaken baby syndrome before they leave the hospital, Jenny says. Although 14 states require that new parents receive information before leaving the hospital, states rarely provide money to fund these programs, says Philip Scribano, medical director of the Center for Child and Family Advocacy at the Ohio State University College of Medicine.

Although home visiting and hospital-based educational programs have had some success, many efforts fail to include fathers, he says.

“The message to fathers should be, ‘Don’t shake a baby,’ ” says Jenny, who notes that for every baby that dies from being shaken, seven or eight suffer brain damage, blindness or other injuries. “If you get angry, put the baby down and ask for help.”

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